There is a general consensus among the Christian community about a pre-tribulation rapture with many using the argument that the church isn’t mentioned, some say after chapter 4 of Revelations, other say after chapter 6.
But I am highly confused!
No one mentions Malachi4:5-6 which is critical in understanding the book of Revelations. It say Elijah is sent out before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes,
Malachi 4:5, See, I will send the prophet Elijah before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse.”
Matthew 17:11 embellishes this,
Matthew 17:11, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things.”
Multiple times in the Old Testament God offers us a clue as to the end of the age and the harvest by saying that He must judge His own house before He can judge the wicked world. One could presume that God displays justice and righteousness by judging His own house first.
Going back to Malachi 4:5-6, one has to presume Elijah’s last day ministry is to restore God’s people to holiness and in this modern age that can only mean the Christians in America and the Jews in Israel.
Revelation 3 describes two remaining elements of God’s people at the end of the age, the Philadelphia church, who are spared the ‘hour of trial’ (the tribulations) described in Revelation 3:10 and the Laodicean church who are described in Revelation 3:16-18 as falling short and requiring to be further restored to holiness.
It is very clear this element of God’s people are NOT ready to be raptured. In fact Jesus’s parable of the ten virgins embellishes this. The five who have sufficient oil in their lamps are ready to meet their Bridegroom (the Philadelphia church), but the five virgins without sufficient oil in their lamps are NOT prepared to meet their Bridegroom and require further restoration to holiness ( the Laodicean church).
I’m confused further by the 144,000 as they are not raptured either as Revelation 7:3 says that they are sealed (supernaturally protected) during tribulations.
And there is further confusion in Revelation 7:9-14 as this element of God’s people are martyred during the tribulations.
And the warning in Revelation 13 not to accept the mark of the beast is meant to warn WHOM if not the Christian element when they are raptured?? Removed already from harm??
But the clincher in confusion is the description of the woman in Revelation 12. The woman is the church and why is it necessary to protect her (from harm) in the wilderness for 1260 days is she is removed from harm already?
Who is left to spread the gospel to all the world before our Lord comes if all Christians are gone?
"Shall I not divide, saith the Lord? Shall I not divide and conquer? Shall I not take that which I have prepared and deploy it to my advantage, that I might defeat the enemy and gain a great victory in this day? Shall I not use my forces in a way that will bring the enemy into subjection and destroy his works? And what are his works, saith the Lord? Are they not death and destruction, sorrow and confusion, even the workings of chaos in the earth? And shall I not begin to destroy his works by overcoming the primary effect of sin, even death? For in the clutches of death has he held his victims since the beginning of sin. And none has overcome save that one who rose victoriously, even the Lord of Glory. And shall I not now put into operation that which I have purposed? What is it saith the Lord? Is it not even this, that the manchild which I am preparing in the bosom of the woman shall come forth unto victorious life and no longer be subject unto death? For even as Jesus come forth from the bosom of the woman Israel, and was eventually caught up unto the throne of His God, so shall I bring forth a company of overcomers who shall be caught up unto my throne and invested with power to overcome the enemy. And even as Jesus rose to die no more, so shall this manchild company enter into deathless life to begin the destruction of the enemy´s works.
And now consider further what I would show you about this manchild company. It is even a mystery hid but now to be revealed. Shall not this manchild be divided into two companies even as Elijah and Elisha were divided? And shall not one company be caught up into the heavenly realm to receive glorified life, and shall not the other company be left behind as was Elisha to enter into deathless life in the physical? For this is a pattern which I have set in my Word, that there shall be a dividing and deploying of my forces, to the end that I may destroy all the workings of the enemy. The first division will be that of the manchild from the woman. This will be a division between those who are in My glorious church but who remain in mortal flesh and those who are born out of that church into Immortality. There shall be a further division in that which is born, in that some shall be caught up to the heavenly realm and some shall be left on earth. Some shall be in glorified bodies and some shall be in Immortal physical bodies. Those who are left on earth to function, in Immortal physical bodies are referred to in Revelation chapter twelve as the remnant (or remainder) of her seed. (Rev. 12:17). They are the ones who remain after the main body of the manchild is taken. They will be with the woman, or glorious church in the wilderness of tribulation, but they shall be separate in that they will have entered into Immortality in human flesh and will no longer be subject to death. They will be the manifest sons of that day even as Jesus was a manifested son in His day.
And did not the Lord Jesus portray in Himself the pattern for the end?time manifested sons by the two kinds of life which He lived? First He entered into Immortality in human flesh and wrought mighty signs and wonders, even the power of the one who has received the fulness of the Father. So shall my manifested sons who are still on the earth wield the powers of their God in that day. Secondly, Jesus entered into glorified life after He was raised from the dead. Even so shall those of the manchild company who are taken enter into the powers of the glorified life and minister on the earth during the tribulation as Jesus ministered for 40 days after His resurrection. Thus shall the enemy´s grip begin to be broken when my manifested ones enter into the realm where death no longer has dominion over them, whether in the earthly or in the heavenly sphere.
And now consider further the mystery of the woman and the manchild. The woman represents my glorious church which will be functioning in divine power during the time of the tribulation. She will have come into the fulness of spiritual ministry and witness, symbolized by her being clothed with the sun (Rev. 12:1). Also with the moon under her feet she has overcome the soulish realm of human desire and emotion, and as she is crowned with a crown of twelve stars so is she functioning in the fulness of new covenant power and authority. But she is still in the realm of limitation because she has not yet been caught up to the throne and invested with that power which comes only to those who are no longer subject to death. She has not yet overcome sufficiently to be in the realm of the manifested sons. For the manifested sons or manchild company have overcome to the extent that death has been abolished for them, and whether in the heavenly or earthly they are no longer subject to its powers, neither the limitations of its domain, They are functioning in a realm which is beyond that of ordinary mortals.
Now consider that which I require of you that you may be in my glorious church in this day and that you might be accounted worthy to be among those who will be filled with the fulness of their God in the days of tribulation impending. And I would have you consider further the price that must be paid in total commitment unto me, which is the sacrifice necessary for those who would become the manifested sons of that day. For surely the day is coming shortly and only those who have made a total commitment will have a part in the ministry which will bring liberation and salvation to multitudes in the days ahead. So consider, my people, that glory which is waiting those who are willing to pay the price in laying down their lives completely on the alter as a living sacrifice unto me. Even so shall they receive a glory which is beyond compare, and a joy in service which few are able to comprehend. For I will have a people who will show forth my glory in these last days, saith Lord.
Now consider further the mystery of Elijah and Elisha as a type of the manifested sons. The two are one, yet divided for the fulfilment of my purpose. First there shall be a division at the beginning of the tribulation when the manchild or manifested sons shall be divided into those like Elijah who shall be taken, and those like Elisha who shall be left. And those who are left, like Elisha, shall have a double portion of power, for they will no longer be subject unto death. This is shown by the fact that Elisha picked up the mantle of Elijah and crossed over Jordan on dry ground. As the Jordan river, which means ´descender´, is a type of death, so the crossing of Jordan on dry ground is a type of the entering into deathless life or Immortality. Even so shall the Elisha group wield the powers of Immortality as did Jesus when He was upon the earth. And as Elijah was taken out and caught up, so shall a part of the manchild company be caught up into the heavenly to wield the powers of the glorified life during the time of great tribulation on the earth. And as Elijah was divided asunder from Elisha by a chariot of fire, so does this picture the fiery tribulation which shall be encompassing the inhabitants of the earth at that time. But as Elisha saw Elijah go in the whirlwind, so shall the whirlwind of my judgment be upon those who seek to destroy or harm the Elisha group who have been left behind to enter into the powers of the Immortal Life. And as Elisha did many more works than Elijah, so does this picture the mighty work which shall be done by the manifested sons on the earth during the tribulation days. As Elijah was seen by Elisha as he went, so does this show that those who are taken and who enter into the glorified life, will minister and be seen from time to time by those who are left on the earth. Even so shall my plan be fulfilled and my body of overcomers go forth to overcome all the works of the enemy in that day.
I would also have you understand that as there was a division at the beginning of the tribulation, so shall there be a division at the close of the tribulation. For the Elijah?Elisha drama has a double fulfilment. Thus at the close of the tribulation a great host will have been prepared to be taken into the heavenlies. For they shall be translated into the heavenlies in that day when I come to gather my saints unto myself. But there will be others who are not ready to be taken. Even so shall they be left behind in that day to enter into Immortality in human flesh. And having entered into Immortality they shall continue to live in physical bodies throughout the entire millennium. At the close of the millennium they too shall be taken into the heavenly realms.
So do you not see, my people, how I must divide. For by division will I conquer, by separating that which is ready for one realm, from that which is ready for another realm. And by deployment of my forces in whatever place and realm that I choose, I am able to overcome the works of the enemy and confound the imaginations of the proud, saith the Lord."
There is a general consensus among the Christian community about a pre-tribulation rapture with many using the argument that the church isn’t mentioned, some say after chapter 4 of Revelations, other say after chapter 6.
But I am highly confused!
No one mentions Malachi4:5-6 which is critical in understanding the book of Revelations. It say Elijah is sent out before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes,
Malachi 4:5, See, I will send the prophet Elijah before the great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of the children to their fathers; or else I will come and strike the land with a curse.”
Matthew 17:11 embellishes this,
Matthew 17:11, “To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things.”
Multiple times in the Old Testament God offers us a clue as to the end of the age and the harvest by saying that He must judge His own house before He can judge the wicked world. One could presume that God displays justice and righteousness by judging His own house first.
Going back to Malachi 4:5-6, one has to presume Elijah’s last day ministry is to restore God’s people to holiness and in this modern age that can only mean the Christians in America and the Jews in Israel.
Revelation 3 describes two remaining elements of God’s people at the end of the age, the Philadelphia church, who are spared the ‘hour of trial’ (the tribulations) described in Revelation 3:10 and the Laodicean church who are described in Revelation 3:16-18 as falling short and requiring to be further restored to holiness.
It is very clear this element of God’s people are NOT ready to be raptured. In fact Jesus’s parable of the ten virgins embellishes this. The five who have sufficient oil in their lamps are ready to meet their Bridegroom (the Philadelphia church), but the five virgins without sufficient oil in their lamps are NOT prepared to meet their Bridegroom and require further restoration to holiness ( the Laodicean church).
I’m confused further by the 144,000 as they are not raptured either as Revelation 7:3 says that they are sealed (supernaturally protected) during tribulations.
And there is further confusion in Revelation 7:9-14 as this element of God’s people are martyred during the tribulations.
And the warning in Revelation 13 not to accept the mark of the beast is meant to warn WHOM if not the Christian element when they are raptured?? Removed already from harm??
But the clincher in confusion is the description of the woman in Revelation 12. The woman is the church and why is it necessary to protect her (from harm) in the wilderness for 1260 days is she is removed from harm already?
Who is left to spread the gospel to all the world before our Lord comes if all Christians are gone?
MORE ON THE MANCHILD
"Shall I not divide, saith the Lord? Shall I not divide and conquer? Shall I not take that which I have prepared and deploy it to my advantage, that I might defeat the enemy and gain a great victory in this day? Shall I not use my forces in a way that will bring the enemy into subjection and destroy his works? And what are his works, saith the Lord? Are they not death and destruction, sorrow and confusion, even the workings of chaos in the earth? And shall I not begin to destroy his works by overcoming the primary effect of sin, even death? For in the clutches of death has he held his victims since the beginning of sin. And none has overcome save that one who rose victoriously, even the Lord of Glory. And shall I not now put into operation that which I have purposed? What is it saith the Lord? Is it not even this, that the manchild which I am preparing in the bosom of the woman shall come forth unto victorious life and no longer be subject unto death? For even as Jesus come forth from the bosom of the woman Israel, and was eventually caught up unto the throne of His God, so shall I bring forth a company of overcomers who shall be caught up unto my throne and invested with power to overcome the enemy. And even as Jesus rose to die no more, so shall this manchild company enter into deathless life to begin the destruction of the enemy´s works.
And now consider further what I would show you about this manchild company. It is even a mystery hid but now to be revealed. Shall not this manchild be divided into two companies even as Elijah and Elisha were divided? And shall not one company be caught up into the heavenly realm to receive glorified life, and shall not the other company be left behind as was Elisha to enter into deathless life in the physical? For this is a pattern which I have set in my Word, that there shall be a dividing and deploying of my forces, to the end that I may destroy all the workings of the enemy. The first division will be that of the manchild from the woman. This will be a division between those who are in My glorious church but who remain in mortal flesh and those who are born out of that church into Immortality. There shall be a further division in that which is born, in that some shall be caught up to the heavenly realm and some shall be left on earth. Some shall be in glorified bodies and some shall be in Immortal physical bodies. Those who are left on earth to function, in Immortal physical bodies are referred to in Revelation chapter twelve as the remnant (or remainder) of her seed. (Rev. 12:17). They are the ones who remain after the main body of the manchild is taken. They will be with the woman, or glorious church in the wilderness of tribulation, but they shall be separate in that they will have entered into Immortality in human flesh and will no longer be subject to death. They will be the manifest sons of that day even as Jesus was a manifested son in His day.
And did not the Lord Jesus portray in Himself the pattern for the end?time manifested sons by the two kinds of life which He lived? First He entered into Immortality in human flesh and wrought mighty signs and wonders, even the power of the one who has received the fulness of the Father. So shall my manifested sons who are still on the earth wield the powers of their God in that day. Secondly, Jesus entered into glorified life after He was raised from the dead. Even so shall those of the manchild company who are taken enter into the powers of the glorified life and minister on the earth during the tribulation as Jesus ministered for 40 days after His resurrection. Thus shall the enemy´s grip begin to be broken when my manifested ones enter into the realm where death no longer has dominion over them, whether in the earthly or in the heavenly sphere.
And now consider further the mystery of the woman and the manchild. The woman represents my glorious church which will be functioning in divine power during the time of the tribulation. She will have come into the fulness of spiritual ministry and witness, symbolized by her being clothed with the sun (Rev. 12:1). Also with the moon under her feet she has overcome the soulish realm of human desire and emotion, and as she is crowned with a crown of twelve stars so is she functioning in the fulness of new covenant power and authority. But she is still in the realm of limitation because she has not yet been caught up to the throne and invested with that power which comes only to those who are no longer subject to death. She has not yet overcome sufficiently to be in the realm of the manifested sons. For the manifested sons or manchild company have overcome to the extent that death has been abolished for them, and whether in the heavenly or earthly they are no longer subject to its powers, neither the limitations of its domain, They are functioning in a realm which is beyond that of ordinary mortals.
Now consider that which I require of you that you may be in my glorious church in this day and that you might be accounted worthy to be among those who will be filled with the fulness of their God in the days of tribulation impending. And I would have you consider further the price that must be paid in total commitment unto me, which is the sacrifice necessary for those who would become the manifested sons of that day. For surely the day is coming shortly and only those who have made a total commitment will have a part in the ministry which will bring liberation and salvation to multitudes in the days ahead. So consider, my people, that glory which is waiting those who are willing to pay the price in laying down their lives completely on the alter as a living sacrifice unto me. Even so shall they receive a glory which is beyond compare, and a joy in service which few are able to comprehend. For I will have a people who will show forth my glory in these last days, saith Lord.
Now consider further the mystery of Elijah and Elisha as a type of the manifested sons. The two are one, yet divided for the fulfilment of my purpose. First there shall be a division at the beginning of the tribulation when the manchild or manifested sons shall be divided into those like Elijah who shall be taken, and those like Elisha who shall be left. And those who are left, like Elisha, shall have a double portion of power, for they will no longer be subject unto death. This is shown by the fact that Elisha picked up the mantle of Elijah and crossed over Jordan on dry ground. As the Jordan river, which means ´descender´, is a type of death, so the crossing of Jordan on dry ground is a type of the entering into deathless life or Immortality. Even so shall the Elisha group wield the powers of Immortality as did Jesus when He was upon the earth. And as Elijah was taken out and caught up, so shall a part of the manchild company be caught up into the heavenly to wield the powers of the glorified life during the time of great tribulation on the earth. And as Elijah was divided asunder from Elisha by a chariot of fire, so does this picture the fiery tribulation which shall be encompassing the inhabitants of the earth at that time. But as Elisha saw Elijah go in the whirlwind, so shall the whirlwind of my judgment be upon those who seek to destroy or harm the Elisha group who have been left behind to enter into the powers of the Immortal Life. And as Elisha did many more works than Elijah, so does this picture the mighty work which shall be done by the manifested sons on the earth during the tribulation days. As Elijah was seen by Elisha as he went, so does this show that those who are taken and who enter into the glorified life, will minister and be seen from time to time by those who are left on the earth. Even so shall my plan be fulfilled and my body of overcomers go forth to overcome all the works of the enemy in that day.
I would also have you understand that as there was a division at the beginning of the tribulation, so shall there be a division at the close of the tribulation. For the Elijah?Elisha drama has a double fulfilment. Thus at the close of the tribulation a great host will have been prepared to be taken into the heavenlies. For they shall be translated into the heavenlies in that day when I come to gather my saints unto myself. But there will be others who are not ready to be taken. Even so shall they be left behind in that day to enter into Immortality in human flesh. And having entered into Immortality they shall continue to live in physical bodies throughout the entire millennium. At the close of the millennium they too shall be taken into the heavenly realms.
So do you not see, my people, how I must divide. For by division will I conquer, by separating that which is ready for one realm, from that which is ready for another realm. And by deployment of my forces in whatever place and realm that I choose, I am able to overcome the works of the enemy and confound the imaginations of the proud, saith the Lord."